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Help with 12c vs 10.2g [message #598517] Tue, 15 October 2013 10:24 Go to next message
hesaigo999ca
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Hi all, let me start by thanking you all for a great website, it seems very well maintained.
I am getting back into Oracle (from a long haul in MS only env.) and am now testing Oracle installs.

I have been given a task of seeing the diff. between 12c and 10.2g

I set up 2 vms (excatly same configs) and used the same dmp file (on both env.) to restore data and settings for our jobs to run.
We have some aggregated data, and cubes with DIM tables each being run on the vm machines. We run nightly jobs to rebuild our cubes.

I am supposed to see/analyze the value of 12c, and understand things might vary from company to company, but am perplexed at my result.
12c is half the speed of 10.2g, both env. are the same out of the box with same dmp file and same hardware.

My questions is if I am using the same dmp file, with the same jobs on each machine, with both vms having 10.2g or 12c installed out of the box as is... what default oracle settings might have changed from 10.2g to 12c that could make the exact same env. run twice as slow on the 12c? I am hazy a bit with Oracle as I am starting back into it, so please be patient with me....

Expectations were that out of the box with both machines running same jobs on same data (from dmp files) would have it that 10.2g would be slower then the 12c, except the 12c takes 2 times as long to run the jobs. I have reviewed every possibility as I know usually the problem is the person sitting in the chair and not the pc...but I confirmed all was identical from the one vm env. to the other, except the version of oracle out of the box.

If anyone out there has any clue as to what to start testing to see what could be done to bring that default setting back to atleast equal time between the 2, that would give me a great starting point. Otherwise, I would have to toss this up to bloatware.

Thanks in advance for help, links and comments, Smile

ps - I read up a bit on the CBO, and know this might have changed in 12c....
is there a way to bring it back to a backwards ealier config, so as to atleast match both env. execution plans?

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Re: Help with 12c vs 10.2g [message #598520 is a reply to message #598517] Tue, 15 October 2013 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lalit Kumar B
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Is the optimizer_features_enable working for you? Have a look at
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E16655_01/server.121/e17615/refrn10141.htm

But what is the issue that the 12c optimizer is causing for you. It is considered to be the best till now as far as Oracle claims it to be.

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Re: Help with 12c vs 10.2g [message #598522 is a reply to message #598520] Tue, 15 October 2013 11:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you want to get to the bottom of this then you're going to have to trace the sessions on the two DBs and compare to see what's going wrong on 12c.
Re: Help with 12c vs 10.2g [message #598526 is a reply to message #598522] Tue, 15 October 2013 12:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://www.orafaq.com/forum/m/433888/136107/#msg_433888
Please refer to URL above & be sure to provide the details requested:
1) DDL for all tables & indexes
2) EXPLAIN PLAN
3) output from SQL_TRACE & tkprof
Re: Help with 12c vs 10.2g [message #598527 is a reply to message #598522] Tue, 15 October 2013 12:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you Lalit Kumar B for the quick response... I have not switched the optimizer feature yet, thinking that 12c out of the box would still out perform 10.2g, but yes, you are correct, I guess this should be set for 10.2g to get both at least returning results based on the same optimizer settings.

I will try this right now....and post my findings

ps - I am wondering if by leaving this setting running as default 12.0, there might be other things to play with that would bring the result time down some.
Re: Help with 12c vs 10.2g [message #598531 is a reply to message #598527] Tue, 15 October 2013 12:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But how would it help in real time cases if you degrade the optimizer? Find out the slow running SQL,turn on tracing event, execute it, and post the tkprof output. Impossible to conclude anything or make any decision without any proof.
Re: Help with 12c vs 10.2g [message #598532 is a reply to message #598527] Tue, 15 October 2013 12:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I apologize BlackSwan, the link you provided talks about something different then what we are talking about here (or mentioned in your post) I think maybe the link is wrong? The link sends me to a page about creating a table my_salary3 and doing a doing some sql queries... I am not sure if this correlates to finding some features or configs on 12c that could make the results come out in twice the time.

The list of things you mentioned are things I can take a look into separately, and post my findings when I have found out more about this...

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Re: Help with 12c vs 10.2g [message #598533 is a reply to message #598532] Tue, 15 October 2013 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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These links might give you a better direction to post test cases :

http://www.orafaq.com/forum/t/88153/0/
http://www.orafaq.com/forum/t/84315/
Re: Help with 12c vs 10.2g [message #598537 is a reply to message #598533] Tue, 15 October 2013 12:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You are starting from the premise that the root cause of the slowness is strictly the difference in database version.
I want to know specifically why the query is running slow; regardless of the database version or configuration.
Re: Help with 12c vs 10.2g [message #598584 is a reply to message #598537] Tue, 15 October 2013 15:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey guys, wanted to report that one of the links shows Oracle enterprise manager console that can be used for info.
In MS sql server, the ent. manager allows to call SQLprofiler and see what ongoing sessions are doing query wise and how long each query takes, etc.

Is there a similar tool that I can use during my process (on individual machines) that would get me all the query times as you mention...?
Re: Help with 12c vs 10.2g [message #598587 is a reply to message #598584] Tue, 15 October 2013 16:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok, maybe I am not being thorough enough, my current env.(s) run jobs that create log files with a start time and end time of the sql that is run on the respective dbs (for creating cube info). I can not run individual queries, and must use a tool that will get me the overall view of ongoing sessions/queries being run and their start end times. I would then be able to provide you with the info that you are asking concerning the execution plans etc....

I have not touched oracle since 8.x, hence my questions being almost novice level (although in MSSQL I know all the tools to get the job done)
Is there an equivalent to MSSQL SQLProfiler, that can allow me access to the individual queries run info without actually doing them one by one manually?

Re: Help with 12c vs 10.2g [message #598598 is a reply to message #598587] Tue, 15 October 2013 18:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What OS name & version is running the VM hosting V12 Oracle?

>my current env.(s) run jobs that create log files
Above provides no meaningful details (at least to me).
Do these "jobs" contain any actual SQL statements?
How exactly are these jobs initiated?

Re: Help with 12c vs 10.2g [message #598613 is a reply to message #598598] Wed, 16 October 2013 02:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I still think the place to start is to trace both sessions and compare.
Re: Help with 12c vs 10.2g [message #598637 is a reply to message #598613] Wed, 16 October 2013 08:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>I still think the place to start is to trace both sessions and compare.
I am in agreement, yet no one is able to provide me with the name of a similar UI tool like MS SQLProfiler,
Am i to believe Oracle has yet to figure out how to write a proper UI for their backend? Is the SQL_TRACE really the only text based option otherwise?

>What OS name & version is running the VM hosting V12 Oracle?
Both are identical same hardware windows 2008 R2 64bit with all updates patched,
one has 10.2g and the other has 12c (out of the box)

Both have the same dmp file being used, and exactly the same configs and jobs running to rebuild the cubes.
The log files of each are as follows, I have tried to do a side by side to better identify the diffs.
Notice all the times are almost exactly twice as long on 12c then on the 10.2g


Cycle_Duration
----------------------10.2g_-------------------------------12c-----------------------------
The_jobs_ran_for____:_2381_seconds________________________:_4141_seconds
The_jobs_started_at_:_2010-08-23_01:16:51_________________:_2010-08-23_01:24:18
The_jobs_ended_at___:_2010-08-23_01:56:32_________________:_2010-08-23_02:33:19

---------10.2g_----------------------------------------------12c-----------------------------
Job______Started______________Elapsed_Parallel___Worked____Started___________Elapsed_Parallel___Worked
-------------------------_-------------------_--------_--------_--------__-------------------_--------
Job1__2010-08-23_01:39:38______204________4______769__2010-08-23_02:14:31______325________4_____1147
Job2__2010-08-23_01:28:52______643________1______643__2010-08-23_01:53:39_____1247________1_____1247
Job3__2010-08-23_01:48:21______398________1______398__2010-08-23_02:25:18______400________1______400
Job4__2010-08-23_01:24:08______175________2______337__2010-08-23_01:35:50______959________2_____1887
Job5__2010-08-23_01:19:32______192________1______192__2010-08-23_01:27:45______349________1______349
Job6__2010-08-23_01:43:15______150________1______150__2010-08-23_02:20:17______139________1______139
Job7__2010-08-23_01:55:02_______84________1_______84__2010-08-23_02:31:58_______74________1_______74
Job8__2010-08-23_01:22:48_______79________1_______79__2010-08-23_01:33:35______133________1______133
Job9__2010-08-23_01:46:36_______70________1_______70__2010-08-23_02:23:32_______66________1_______66
Job10_2010-08-23_01:27:51_______59________1_______59__2010-08-23_01:52:33_______63________1_______63
Job11_2010-08-23_01:45:46_______47________1_______47__2010-08-23_02:22:37_______51________1_______51
Job12_2010-08-23_01:29:12_______42________1_______42__2010-08-23_01:53:59_______34________1_______34
Job13_2010-08-23_01:27:11_______35________1_______35__2010-08-23_01:51:58_______34________1_______34
Job14_2010-08-23_01:30:18_______31________1_______31__2010-08-23_01:54:54______124________1______124
Job15_2010-08-23_01:18:22_______31________1_______31__2010-08-23_01:26:25_______35________1_______35
Job16_2010-08-23_01:17:57_______25________1_______25__2010-08-23_01:25:39_______41________1_______41
Job17_2010-08-23_01:48:01_______16________1_______16__2010-08-23_02:24:48_______28________1_______28
Job18_2010-08-23_01:17:37_______12________1_______12__2010-08-23_01:25:19_______13________1_______13
Job19_2010-08-23_01:43:05_______10________1_______10__2010-08-23_02:19:57_______17________1_______17

What I wanted to point out with this grid is that you can see a consistent time difference between the 2 jobs from 10.2g to 12c.
All these have multiple queries (such as inserts, updates, etc...) but are identical in terms of queries and records affected.

I am wondering if there might be a 12c specific parameter or config out of the box (such as I/O readwrite buffer, etc... that would
make this exactly always twice as long...

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Re: Help with 12c vs 10.2g [message #598652 is a reply to message #598637] Wed, 16 October 2013 10:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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hesaigo999ca wrote on Wed, 16 October 2013 14:50
>I still think the place to start is to trace both sessions and compare.
I am in agreement, yet no one is able to provide me with the name of a similar UI tool like MS SQLProfiler,
Am i to believe Oracle has yet to figure out how to write a proper UI for their backend? Is the SQL_TRACE really the only text based option otherwise?

Have you looked at enterprise manager? It does a lot of stuff, though admittedly I never use it so I can't swear to what features it has.
and for what you're looking at the trace file should have all you need in one place and comparing that (with a file compare tool) will probably spot issues faster than looking at lots of different graphs.

hesaigo999ca wrote on Wed, 16 October 2013 14:50

The log files of each are as follows, I have tried to do a side by side to better identify the diffs.
Notice all the times are almost exactly twice as long on 12c then on the 10.2g

Is the time the elapsed column? what's that in, seconds? There's one or two that are double, seems to vary wildly.


hesaigo999ca wrote on Wed, 16 October 2013 14:50

I am wondering if there might be a 12c specific parameter or config out of the box (such as I/O readwrite buffer, etc... that would
make this exactly always twice as long...

Except of course the figures appear to indicate that the difference differs much more than you think.
There are probably several parameters that would make a difference, enough that tinkering with them without knowing why 12c is running slower would be a total wild goose chase.

Re: Help with 12c vs 10.2g [message #598670 is a reply to message #598652] Wed, 16 October 2013 14:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok , I have the SQLDeveloper tool open with both dbs visible, now I could run some "Gather schema stats" commands on each of the dbs.
How much estimate percent would I choose to gather schema stats, and what does this represent overall?
Re: Help with 12c vs 10.2g [message #598723 is a reply to message #598670] Thu, 17 October 2013 02:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Your logs appear to show that these jobs ran in 2010....


That aside, you're assuming that it's a parameter that is causing problems whereas the real question is why is it slower. You're trying to treat a problem without knowing the specifics of it.

From what I'm reading you have a bunch of "jobs" that do lots of "stuff". You need to understand the working of these jobs - the SQL they pass and where and when these sql's wait/spent their time on.

Once you know that, compare THAT analysis between versions. Those are the differences you need to address and depending on what they are, the corrections could be any number of things.

Things previously suggested like enterprise manager, 10046 traces etc are all ideal for this. However in problems like this, before I even bother with those sorts of things, the first thing I (well, you) want to be doing is comparing the explain plans between the systems. Finally, a cautionary note - explain plans in 12c are a bit....interesting as adaptive plans are active out of the box so you be careful with them and understand what it is telling you.

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Re: Help with 12c vs 10.2g [message #598731 is a reply to message #598517] Thu, 17 October 2013 04:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm going to take a step back. It sounds as though you can't identify the SQLs being executed. So I would begin by identifying them. And at the same time, get an overall picture of how the two databases are configured, and the workload.
Do this by generating statspack reports for the two databases over the period when you run these jobs. Or if you have the licences, generate AWR reports. If you are not familiar with generating these reports, well, it will be very difficult to proceed.
Can you do that, and post the reports here?
Re: Help with 12c vs 10.2g [message #598769 is a reply to message #598731] Thu, 17 October 2013 09:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tyvm all for being patient and lots of suggestions...
Here so far is extra info as well as the progress I have made so far.

Info...
Roachcoach:I do know what the jobs are doing, the sql is the same in both cases, hence why I consider this to be simple and the exact sql to be irrelevant. If i run a statement in my job that is "select * from table", and that statement is the same on both machines, why would I need to review execution plan (explain plans) when out of the box, technically both should be acting the same due to the same amount of records (same dmp file). If they are not, then this would be a place to start as it would indicate that 12c does things diff. then 10.2g. Also, if you say the execution plans from 1 version to another again wont be the same in order to be able to compare properly side by side, then what would be the point of running them at all comparatively and just do as you say ; worry only about version 12 with its own tuning parameters instead of comparing the parameters used to tune 10.2g... This in itself now means you have to relearn a whole new set of standards for the 12c, regardless of what was done to tweak 10.2g.

John: I can identify the SQL statements individually, the problem is there are so many in each job, and there are many jobs, hence why in MSSQL, you can use a tool like sqlprofiler, tell it to log ALL sqlqueries overnight (to get the time/execution info), and then in the morning have 1 file that shows all the info from last nights statements, no matter how many or what session they came from. I did figure out how to do SQL_Trace and tkprof, but this is too slow and cumbersome to do for individual query look ups...or even per session, this is not an acceptable time loss in my opinion.... there should be a tool that allows you to run a full tablespace(database in MSSQL) logging.

In the end the reports you are looking for would be to compare, what I could do is grab the biggest statements from the jobs and post the different times here....

?: Someone asked me to post the different parameters by using the SHOW PARAMETERS command.
Here is a list of diff if not non existing params from one to the other, I omitted anything that was the same on both sides... of course same thing here, using a compare tool is best
10.2
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hesaigo999ca wrote on Thu, 17 October 2013 15:57

John: I can identify the SQL statements individually, the problem is there are so many in each job, and there are many jobs, hence why in MSSQL, you can use a tool like sqlprofiler, tell it to log ALL sqlqueries overnight (to get the time/execution info), and then in the morning have 1 file that shows all the info from last nights statements, no matter how many or what session they came from.


statspack does that.
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